Lewis Pugh tweeted today, “After finishing the #HudsonSwim2023, I joined @MelissaFleming on her podcast ‘Awake at Night’.”

Fleming is the United Nations’ Under-Secretary-General for Global Communications.

Pugh explained why he does cold water swimming. “The first thing that happens is I can’t breathe and I’m gasping for air. And the cold just grips its way around you. And you just got to try and control your mind, because there’s a moment when you feel like panicking because there’s nothing like this.”

Listen here.